User talk:DocTrain

Welcome
Hi, welcome to TrainStation Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the User:DocTrain page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Casey.dill (Talk) 01:27, July 5, 2012

Hello. I'm new to editing Wiki pages and you have made a number of edits so perhaps you can point me in a good direction. I have edited a number of pages buildings/themes and when I logged in today they table color schemes had been altered making them hard to read. I have a little familiarity with editing HTML but a little lost when formatting in a wiki. Do you have any good sources for me to look at to see how I can correct the presentation?

Thanks in advance Mhommer (talk) 04:17, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

Your adding a lot of templates to the cars which look great! Do you have the graphics for the cars as well? If not I would be happy to start filling them in behind you. Just don't want to step on your plan.

Mhommer (talk) 22:31, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

DocTrain - I was trying to add some info on one of the train sets an noticed a small issue. Some of the set have the same name as the locomotive. So I am going through the table and compairing it to the mesuem and where the set name matches the locomotive name I am adding (Set) after the name for the train set page. Hopefully this will help cut down on confusion with the locomotive pages.

Mhommer (talk) 15:52, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

For each car I use the daylight 'preview' screen to get the largest image. I take a screen capture tool to grab just a few pixels wider that the actual car. I than process the image with Adobe Photoshop and the 'Magic Wand Tool' and play with the tolerance. Most of the time between 16 and 10 does the trick. The tool allows me to mask off the background and clear it. It takes me less than 2 min to capture, edit and post a photo so I really don't mind adding the photos to pages after you create them if that is easier.

Mhommer (talk) 00:23, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

I sent an email to the last user with Admin credientials that logged in but I have yet to receive a response. (http://trainstation.wikia.com/wiki/Special:ListUsers/sysop) I'm not sure if there is another way to get added as admins if they current admins are inactive. I also wanted to make some changes to the CSS metadata files and reorganize some pages as well.

Mhommer (talk) 19:54, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Another good link: http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Adoption_requests

Mhommer (talk) 20:44, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Need your opinion on the best way to proceed with tables. Take a look at the Cement section of the cargo cars. I put in two tables, one for what is in the store and the second for everything else. How do you feel about using this format for all section to help keep things a little cleaner and better organized? Also I combined the Notes and Unlock columns to help provide a little more room in the table overall. Thoughts?

Mhommer (talk) 03:00, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Great work on the locomotive page and passanger wagons adding all the differect sections. The table of contents at the top look really good with how you have used the headers to divide every thing up. I made a few adjustments to the tables just trying to get them to fit on the page whole and not have the contents of individual cells wrap in the wrong spot (like the coin or gem graphic showing up on the next line).

One point of consistancy I wanted to ask your opinion on - should we use a coma or not for large numbers? (Example: 1,000 vs. 1 000) The games does not so I have not been putting in the comas but a lot of the tables already have the coma in there so before I make any changes just wanted to know your thoughts on what looked / worked so things are consistant through-out.

Mhommer (talk) 16:56, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

No word on the adoptions status yet. Maybe I leave an update request on the page tomorrow.

Sets - I've kinda adopted the standard of only adding '(Set)' after the name when the set name is the exact same as the locomotive. For the most part trying to keep the exact spelling and case as in the game. I find it just makes creating multiple cross reference easier to remember so i have been adjusting them to that standard as I come across them.

Acheivement page looks great. I have captured the graphic for some of the more recent achievements I have accomplished but I don't have any for the earlier ones. I'll upload them later if you want to figure out the best way to link them in.

Mhommer (talk) 02:46, July 24, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, message number two for the day. Again teh acheivement section looks fantastic. I uploaded a screen shot of one of the acheivements. Marble Deliver 4 star.png

Not sure how best to use it. I don't know if you can just link to the graphic or add a column 'screen shot' or 'award' or whatever looks and sounds good. It's too big to put directly on the page I think but the table look really good so I will defer to you on how best you think to incorperate the screen shot or maybe just not use them at all. Let me know and I will upload the rest that I have (not that many unfortunitly).

Mhommer (talk) 04:17, July 24, 2012 (UTC)

With the acheivment graphic I'm not sure about the fact that it pushes the table so far over that is doesn't all show so maybe we just leave them off for now. I don't have very many of those screen shots anyway so it would be very spotty.

I like the way you have broken out the acheivement pages. They are long as it is and it keeps them managable to work on and read.

Mhommer (talk) 00:59, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

Adoption
Hi. I've given both you and Mhommer admin and bureaucrat rights. Good luck with the wiki! -- Wendy (talk ) 04:10, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

Congrats!
They made us both admins! I did a little poking around this morning and added some things to the menu (Special Wagons and Levels) and deleted one page that was bad. In general though we should probably try and take advange of some of the pre-built pages such as "Candidates for deletion" and just figure out the best way for us to keep in sync so we don't step on each others projects. I'm thinking exchanging emails might be a little quicker than leaving talk messages. Let me know your thoughts

Mhommer (talk) 12:08, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

From the scratch page I like a combination of the two. I like the tighter presentation of the list of requirements from the old table but like the split row approach of the new.

Mhommer (talk) 00:24, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

Diet...
I seem to have put George on a pretty heavy diet. So far I've reduced his size by 7,809 bytes, and I'm not finished. --Koppa Dasao frelangi kazelangin na 19:46, September 29, 2012 (UTC)

Trainstation Templates
I see you've tried to add a couple of templates to the template category. Please continue, but use instead of a link. --Koppa Dasao ƒłелањі каселањін на 16:37, October 1, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the Berlin correction, I forgot about the 20% discount from the Stock Exchange. I wonder how many other prices I have screwed up because of that. . . . Mhommer (talk) 16:18, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

On the locomotive template, could we try abbrevating Dispatch as Dis. and Power as Pwr and maybe drop the power graphic? That might help shrink some of the column widths to get the table to naturally appear within the page boundries. Just a thought. Mhommer (talk) 17:35, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

Please add this template to you follow list. For info check out this blog post. --Koppa Dasao ƒłелањі каселањін на 21:40, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

Picture enlargments
Can you figure out why the automatic picture enlargement broke? If you drop in a standard inforbox and add a picture the system still adds the code so that you can click on the photo and get the full sized image. However, something we did to our modified infoboxes prevents that feature, it used to work. I've tried to figure it out but I have been unsuccesful so far: Mhommer_scratch

Mhommer (talk) 16:40, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Perfect. I like simple solutions. Maybe over the weekend I will have some time to play with the templates and get the link tag automatically associated with them again.

Mhommer (talk) 02:00, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

I have mainly been working on the contracts and the contract shops. Trying to fill in all the buildings and decorations. Been also taking note on minor tweeks but I seem to have misplaced my note pad. . ..

Mhommer (talk) 01:14, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Perfect! As soon as you mentioned you were adapting it, that is what I thought of. I would almost say just change the base 'Trainset' template so they are all like that. Even the short engine I think would be fine presented above the cars or is the graphic going to get streatched?

Mhommer (talk) 15:00, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Trainset
I like the upgrades. I agree, highlights the trains better. Can you add the link= in as well? The tags are too nested for me and I could figure out where to insert them without breaking things

Mhommer (talk) 03:37, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

Look really good, I like the format. Two minor tweaks: 1) Can we add the link= tag to the images? 2) Can we automatically add those pages to the Train Set category?

Mhommer (talk) 18:25, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

No for the link= I was referring to the ability to click on the picture and have it show up enlarged like we used to be able to do. Also I came across one that didn't space out evenly Warship_Freight_I. One other thing I notice and really liked was the changes made on the infobox wagon with the semi-transparent colored backgound the information tags (buy xp, level, etc.). Can you do the same with the trainset? Or did you already try and it not looks so good? I'll defer to what you think works on the color side of things.

Mhommer (talk) 19:14, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

Oh. Do think the ability to enlarge the images takes away from the site? I kinda like it but thats just my opinion. Maybe that doesn't make sense for the trainsets and should only be on the individual pages. Thoughts?

BTW came across another page where the placeholder image doesnt show right: Caledonian_Sleeper_I

Overall I like the new Trainset template and the tweaks you've made on the other templates, thanks for all your help.

Mhommer (talk) 19:30, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

I had an idea about the space, don't know if it will work but. . . what if you used 4 columns instead of 2? You could group the top half by spanning columns 1&2 and 3&4. Then the bottom half could be group as column 1 and 2-4. Think it would work?

Mhommer (talk) 14:56, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

RE: Milestone
Congrats on the 10,000 page views! Keep up the good work, and Happy New Year! JoePlay http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/joeplayground/images/a/a5/WikiaStaff2.png (talk)  17:26, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

I think all our had work is paying off. Not only in the nuber of views but you can also see it in the nuber of folks making significant contributions to editing the pages.

Mhommer (talk) 17:58, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome. I just did what I could when I had some extra time for this wiki. Repeatyang (talk) 13:38, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Contractor Template
Something is askew on the contractor template within the info boxes. Looks like an extra column got inserted which is shifting everything a bit.

Mhommer (talk) 19:22, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Dang you work fast! Mhommer (talk) 20:56, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Template Request
For the Infobox Shop template, could we add a gem purchase section similar to the locomotives? There are a few buildings that are available as both resource and gem purchase. Thanks for all your template work. Mhommer (talk) 04:01, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

I was trying to convert a page to the new template but ran into a snag with the contractor part. Can you tell what I am doing wrong? 5th Av. Helios, if you look at the source code you wioll see the contractor information still there but just not displaying. Mhommer (talk) 04:58, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Help??
Hey Doc.

Could you when you got the time, please take a look at the Nippon Buildings page.

I changed the lay-out for the dubble cost buildings but there is a seperator line that i cant get rid of.

The Terminal

If you check the souce code its completely identical as all the others that i've done but this one buggs.

In source its all normal and fine, but going to visual of preview shows the bugg.

If you found the bug, can you please let me know what is was?

Thanks in advance Drazoria (talk) 19:32, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick responce..

The problem is actualy on the Nippon Buildings page itself.

On there i changed the lay-out.

Underneath you can find the source code:


 * colspan="1" rowspan="2"|Terminal


 * style="text-align: center;"|61


 * rowspan="2" style="text-align: center;"|1


 * style="text-align: center;"|


 * rowspan="2" style="text-align: center;"|21,500


 * rowspan="2" style="text-align: center;"|


 * rowspan="2" style="text-align: center;"|21


 * rowspan="2" style="text-align: center;"|


 * rowspan="2" style="text-align: center;"|NoteSpecial.png




 * style="text-align: center;"|67


 * style="text-align: center;"|

When you look it up on the Nippon Buildings page you'll see that there is a sepperator between the 2 rows, From Lvl. up to XP. Even where there isn't one possible thru the code.

Or am i wrong??

Thanks in advance Drazoria (talk) 21:39, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

--Funny--

here when you look up the Terminal it's the same thing as on the Nippon page

Drazoria (talk) 19:47, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

template issue
Hey Doc, Juppie wh posted his probelem with buildings not editable in visual mode. I found out that its the |cost part in the template that results in this probelm. I made Container Storage back to the old style with 'res' and 'amt' and this fixed the problem. Hopefully you guys can sort it out knowing this issue.

grtz Drazoria (talk) 22:43, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Hi Doc,

Maybe im daft, but how do I delete pages?

This page needs to be deleted: http://trainstation.wikia.com/wiki/Metropolis_F40PHM-2

And this page needs to be renamed to Metropolis F40PHM-2: http://trainstation.wikia.com/wiki/EMD_F40PHM-2

Also, please delete my latest image.

I added the last achivement, locomotive was red, hence i created a new page and image. Seems they just renamed the locomotive -.-

Sorry :(

Grhym (talk) 15:31, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

template issues and other nonsense
Yo DocTrain, I was looking at the intersport hall you just editted but found out that the resource payments aren't showing up on the page (although they seem to be listed correctly). Something glitchy or just a template error?

Second thing: as I saw on 'oldshoptemp' page there are many pages to be changed to a new template, however when I simply change the template I have to refill all info (the boxes are empty again). Seems not to be very smart of wikia itself, but that doesn't matter directly. What matters is that, well isn't there a way to get old template changed automatically?

I know there are a few bots around which can do a couple of tasks like that but I am not sure if there are easier methods around, like changing the old template with the new temp where it corrects itself? (I'm sorry if I said something impossible :D ) but was just a suggestion since there are so many on old template.

Last thing I wanted to annoy you with is the fact that the new shop template is still not completely accurate yet, as far as I checked yesterday. Maybe we could think the best template like idea out, and form "the perfect" template in which we use buildings (and if possible decorations) at ease?

If any of the above nonsense was unclear just ask for explanation, my english isn't that good still :P

(edit: I ask you for this as I don't want to edit any template until I get "permision" from you or other admin alike as it could confuse or miscommunicate the process of filling the wikia)

(edit2: nevermind the part about the template was not "perfect" saw that you changed it already on inter sport hall, so thanks for that :) )

Sincerely, Juppie WH 17:52, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

haha, don't worry to much about listening to others for templates as you are doing great, trust me :D

The newest as far as I have seen in inter sport hall seems to be very usefull as it uses not too much lines and is quite readable. As for the bot part, I could create at least one for the old shop template ones but I tell you before handed that it will only do one type of job (as I am not a coding hero :P and when it is doing its job I will watching it closely as it still does the job faster than humans could do but if any flaws appear I can correct it directly too) since I wont be able to make one of those superbots as big wikia's use nowadays.

But only with permission to create and use one of course. This mostly since I don't like doing things against the "unspoken laws" of the creators and supervisors of this wikia. Just some part of responsibilty on my side I guess :P

|Juppie WH 18:12, January 22, 2013 (UTC)